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steven miller testifying and we learned that treasury officials, some appointed by the obama administration, knew before the 2012 election that the irs inspector general was investigating this. so that brings a whole new question. >> well, it does. so i suppose one might say, gee, why didn't they inform people in the white house? why didn't they inform people on the hill? the important thing here, and the thing that has been really kind of brushed aside by some reports on this is that those officials were not told of the conclusions of the investigation. that's really critical. and i can tell you that had they been informed of the conclusions, which, by the way, had not at that point even been reached yet, we would have been having a hearing yesterday on the possibility that senior treasury officials or the white house interfered in the investigation. so it was actually the absolutely correct thing for those senior treasury officials to do to stand down, let the inspector general complete his work and not get involved. >> but you can understand the -- there was some outrage l
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